Mookie ([info]mookieghana) wrote,
@ 2008-06-01 08:06:00
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Fortune House
Alissa & I had a nice dinner at Fortune House (Chinese Food) in St. Paul last night. We had just spent the afternoon driving around Wyoming, Lino Lakes and Mahtomedi including a brief excursion into the park with our dog Meliora. Today is the last week of Beginner Puppy classes for schnoodle. Alissa is asleep on the loveseat and Mel is sitting next to me on the couch stretched out. It's a quiet morning for certain! We saw our friends Jason & Krista (who will be married in a few weeks) for an open-house bridal shower (we left before the storms of DOOM came rolling in), visited Alissa's parents (her mom is home from the hospital!) and even drove through Willernie after picking up coffee at the non-nutty Dunn Bros. drivethru.

We both actually watched the CBS debut of EliteXC last night before there was nothing good on TV. I don't believe it can be technically called the Network debut of MMA because IFL was on MyNetworkTV drawing microscopic ratings last year. However, it's definately the birth of a legitimate network putting Mixed Martial Arts on their primetime (albeit Saturday) schedule. It went majorly over and wasn't done until almost 40 minutes into the normal newstime slot. I can only imagine how elderly news viewers felt when they turned on their TVs and saw Kimbo Slice and that monstrosity that was James Thompson's ear! I feel that local CBS affiliates will be having angry letters pouring in. That said, I think it was a very successful show. There was a lot of interesting pieces: articulate, quiet Kimbo; Mauro's stream of UFC references; two Minnesota fighers; an amazing women's match; two TKO matches from Doctor stoppage and some good KOs. I am not 'shocked and distressed' at Kimbo headlining this event the way many in the MMA internet media are. Just like wrestling, the top draws are rarely the "best in-ring, technical performers". Instead, they are the strongest characters with the most compelling storylines. Honestly, MMA is not different. They did a lot of the right things such as acknowledging other MMA organizations (Hook-N-Shoot, UFC, Pride, WEC) in the manor of treating MMA as an international sport which is competed at many levels. They showcased a good woman's fight (including a girl from Circle Pines, MN who put up a heck of a battle with Gina) which is probably the largest viewing audience for a woman's MMA match in history. They did not have losers out of their stars such as Kimbo Slice and Robbie Lawler, but both performed in a way that suggested they could be beat. Yes - Kimbo didn't kill Thompson the way he beat Tank Abbott. However, it rocked me far more as a viewer to see the battle. And I felt EliteXC did a decent job of not blaming the doctor's when fighters uttered the magic words. If you tell a commission doctor that you "can't see", it's well-understood that is MMA-speak for "stop the match but I'm not throwing in the towel". If fighters still don't understand that, it's their own fault because that's general knowledge. The fights & pre-match pieces were good. The music was dreadful. The post-match interviews were sloppy. Show gets a solid B.



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Elite XC
[info]gwattsbdw
2008-06-01 09:15 pm UTC (link)
Last weekend I was on vacation for Memorial Day in Orlando visiting my brother. He is the one who turned me onto MMA 12 years ago when guys like Shamrock, Severn, Frye, and Tank were the big stars of the UFC. Anyway last weekend almost every night after the kids went to bed we watched a UFC PPV on DVD.

And comparing the recent UFC events I just watched to last night's EliteXC is like going from watching WWE to CZW. Or like comparing one of the old Indiana Jones movies to the new hunk of crap that just came out. None of those guys would last one round against quality UFC opponents. Robbie Lawler would be eaten alive by George St Pierre. Literally. GSP would need to floss afterwards.

The only matches worth watching were the womens match and the title bout. The women's match was easily my favorite of the night. I hope they continue to have women's matches. If for no other reason, because its something different.

One of the major problems I noticed was how quickly the fights were stopped. The first two fights were stopped before they should have been. And the main event? Please, that was disgraceful. You know the ref had the owner of EliteXC on his ear piece screaming to stop it as soon as Kimbo had the upper hand. Kimbo Slice is the only guy in EliteXC who can draw, and he was clearly getting show up by a guy they were trying to feed to him.

I wont lie, I will probably keep watching it, just because its fighting on free tv. But yeah, watching EliteXC gives you a higher appreciation for the UFC. I'd rate it a C or C-.

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Re: Elite XC
[info]mookieghana
2008-06-01 09:47 pm UTC (link)
I'm glad that UFC production values are better than EliteXC because the show would move from tolerable (during the fights) to unwatchable (about every other moment). MMA is alright, but it usually doesn't capture my interest for more than a few moments. There's plenty on TV here but rarely do I care enough to watch. I like characters (i.e. Kimbo) and I like good fights. However, more than anything MMA reminds me why I like wrestling - more focus on entertaining fans than "winning". I think the women's match was probably my favorite of the night too because I thought for sure Gina had her put away two or three times and she kept on swinging. Circle Pines is literally the town next to Lino Lakes where Alissa grew up so it was interesting local connection.

I'm not going to disagree the stoppage were abrupt; I'd have to compare to other events in NJ to say whether they were different. MMA has a huge problem with ref's discretion when it comes to a lot of these things - unanswered shots sometimes end it, other times they recover. Hitting the back of skull sometimes gets a warning, sometimes a DQ, etc. Thompson's ear was unreal. It was becoming detached which wasn't pretty. I don't have any experience to say whether that's the normal stoppage point but I would agree that Thompson's role was to lose to Kimbo - no doubt about that! Heck, he just lost to the another guy on the undercard (I think the black guy from Minnesota).

I also agree that EliteXC is TNA (circa 2006; pre-Angle) and UFC is WWE. The level is fighters, at very least the level of true STARS, is no where even close. I was interested to see MMA on Broadcast TV but we're in an age where MMA isn't a novelty anymore. It was fun, but I am not buying an EliteXC PPV (or UFC PPV) anytime soon. Last time I even thought about it was the Tito/Shamrock fight. Brock is fighting here in Minnesota in a few months and I've thought about watching/attending, but I most likely won't.

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